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Ahh... ta mana koja je ubijala Mercedes u zavojima.Har Kl je napisao/la: 23.11.2020., 13:04 Dok se Toto šprda sa Bottasom, autosport je izbacio članak sa jako interesantnim naslovom.
Hamilton je navodno rekao da je Mercedes riješio "slabost" Mercedesa u zavojima, koju su imali zbog dužeg međuosovinskog raspona.
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Mercedes has managed to cure the major weakness its long-wheelbase Formula 1 car concept has had in terms of difficulty with corner rotation, says Lewis Hamilton.
The seven-times constructors world championship-winning outfit has differed from other teams in electing to run a longer car during the latest rules phase.
While the length of the car offers greater opportunity for improved downforce - as there is more car area for airflow to influence - it has meant it is not as nimble in corners as shorter rivals like Red Bull.
While Mercedes has always believed that its long concept is the right way to go for the current rules set, it has had to battle hard to try to overcome the increased difficulty its drivers face in getting the car rotated in corners.
Hamilton, who wrapped up his record-equalling seventh title at the Turkish Grand Prix, says that he has been surprised other teams have not pursued the Mercedes idea with the team making changes over the winter to wipe out its problem area.
"With last year's car for example, we had the longest car," Hamilton said.
"It's definitely been a bit of a surprise to see that none of the other teams have gone to the longest car.
"We've been winning with the longest car since 2017, and [other teams] are so stuck in the way they do things, in that 'we're still going to keep our car shorter.'
"Being that it's a long car, it's obviously got great downforce, but it's not as nimble as a shorter car.
"Last year our car was good through medium and high-speed corners, but was quite poor in low-speed corners. The car would not rotate as well as we'd like.
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"We started this year in winter testing and the car had similar characteristics. I had some challenges that I put towards the team in terms of how we set the car up, which changed that.
"It's difficult to say too much but that difficulty we had last year with the car rotating, we don't have that problem any more."
Hamilton says he is a driver who always prefers a responsive front end to a car, which has not always been something that Mercedes has delivered in recent seasons.
However, he says dialling out the set-up characteristics has not been the work of the moment, because of the complexity involved in ensuring a change in car balance does not hurt the tyres too much.
"I've always preferred a more positive front end in the car, but there's a limitation with these tyres," he said.
"The front has a limitation, the rear has a limitation, grip wise.
"There's saturation, there's thermal deg and there's only a certain amount you can do with the mechanical balance before it affects the other end. It's like a see-saw.
"Last year our car was definitely very, very strong at the rear, and the car was generally driven by the rear end. The front was a lot more understeery last year.
"You struggled a lot more when you go over the tyre [grip] and no matter how much we put the mechanical rearwards it wouldn't really fix it.
"This year we have made some changes. With the aero balance it's a much longer process, you can't just change it.
"Definitely over the winter we fixed it and moved the aero balance more rearwards, so the car was shifting different, and also at different steering angles and different yaw. So it definitely is working a lot better."
Mercedes has managed to cure the major weakness its long-wheelbase Formula 1 car concept has had in terms of difficulty with corner rotation, says Lewis Hamilton.
The seven-times constructors world championship-winning outfit has differed from other teams in electing to run a longer car during the latest rules phase.
While the length of the car offers greater opportunity for improved downforce - as there is more car area for airflow to influence - it has meant it is not as nimble in corners as shorter rivals like Red Bull.
While Mercedes has always believed that its long concept is the right way to go for the current rules set, it has had to battle hard to try to overcome the increased difficulty its drivers face in getting the car rotated in corners.
Hamilton, who wrapped up his record-equalling seventh title at the Turkish Grand Prix, says that he has been surprised other teams have not pursued the Mercedes idea with the team making changes over the winter to wipe out its problem area.
"With last year's car for example, we had the longest car," Hamilton said.
"It's definitely been a bit of a surprise to see that none of the other teams have gone to the longest car.
"We've been winning with the longest car since 2017, and [other teams] are so stuck in the way they do things, in that 'we're still going to keep our car shorter.'
"Being that it's a long car, it's obviously got great downforce, but it's not as nimble as a shorter car.
"Last year our car was good through medium and high-speed corners, but was quite poor in low-speed corners. The car would not rotate as well as we'd like.
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"We started this year in winter testing and the car had similar characteristics. I had some challenges that I put towards the team in terms of how we set the car up, which changed that.
"It's difficult to say too much but that difficulty we had last year with the car rotating, we don't have that problem any more."
Hamilton says he is a driver who always prefers a responsive front end to a car, which has not always been something that Mercedes has delivered in recent seasons.
However, he says dialling out the set-up characteristics has not been the work of the moment, because of the complexity involved in ensuring a change in car balance does not hurt the tyres too much.
"I've always preferred a more positive front end in the car, but there's a limitation with these tyres," he said.
"The front has a limitation, the rear has a limitation, grip wise.
"There's saturation, there's thermal deg and there's only a certain amount you can do with the mechanical balance before it affects the other end. It's like a see-saw.
"Last year our car was definitely very, very strong at the rear, and the car was generally driven by the rear end. The front was a lot more understeery last year.
"You struggled a lot more when you go over the tyre [grip] and no matter how much we put the mechanical rearwards it wouldn't really fix it.
"This year we have made some changes. With the aero balance it's a much longer process, you can't just change it.
"Definitely over the winter we fixed it and moved the aero balance more rearwards, so the car was shifting different, and also at different steering angles and different yaw. So it definitely is working a lot better."
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Ah shit, here we go again...
Ah shit, here we go again...
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Nisi valja ocekivao nesto drugo.. Ljudi konstantno napreduju, iz godine u godinu, bez padova.. Fenomenalno..Ibarac00 je napisao/la: 23.11.2020., 17:27 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gpblog ... 1-car.html
Ah shit, here we go again...
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Eto prilike da pokaze od cega je napravljen. Bottas je odlican u kvalifikacijama pa nas i tu ceka uzbudljiv sraz. A Russel ovo NE SMIJE uprskati, mora odvesti dobru utrku, a sve mimo podija u ovom bolidu i u normalnim okolnostima je los nastup.

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Steta ako ne dobije bottasa sto ce izgubit odlican niz u q protuv timskih kolega.
Nadam se da ce pomest pod sa bottasom, forumskim zargonom receno.
Pobjeda bi bila bas dobra stvar i evo mu borbe sa maxom o kojoj je neki dan govorio.
Bit ce mali dobar, siguran sam.
Nozda tesko da dobije bottasa jer ipak je to skroz novi bolid koji je usput receno, zvijer, a to nije lako savladat u dan dva..
Ako uspije, imamo jos jednog opakog igraca uz lec, max , sai, ricci...
Drzim fige da dobije bottasa pa i maxa, al ajde, barem bottasa tako da max zavrsi na p2 na kraju sezone
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Nadam se da ce pomest pod sa bottasom, forumskim zargonom receno.
Pobjeda bi bila bas dobra stvar i evo mu borbe sa maxom o kojoj je neki dan govorio.
Bit ce mali dobar, siguran sam.
Nozda tesko da dobije bottasa jer ipak je to skroz novi bolid koji je usput receno, zvijer, a to nije lako savladat u dan dva..
Ako uspije, imamo jos jednog opakog igraca uz lec, max , sai, ricci...
Drzim fige da dobije bottasa pa i maxa, al ajde, barem bottasa tako da max zavrsi na p2 na kraju sezone

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Hamilton nije bio toliko dominantan u odnosu na Maxa, stalno je drzao priključak u nedjelju. Bottasovs utrka je bila kompromitirana od samog starta, ali ono je bio loš tempo tijekom utrke. Sad nam dolazi potpuno nova staza. Ne znam jel mogu očekivati Russella podiju, grid će biti dosta gust s obzirom na krug od 53 sekunde. Mislim da će Renault letit, uz standardno dobre RP i McL čak i AT. Vidit ćemo tko će uspjeti skinuti najviše df. Također očekujem i poneku bakljadu motora kao i Checa za vikend. Btw jel on mora uzeti nove dijelove i popiti kaznu?_bataziv_0809 je napisao/la: 02.12.2020., 09:09 Eto prilike da pokaze od cega je napravljen. Bottas je odlican u kvalifikacijama pa nas i tu ceka uzbudljiv sraz. A Russel ovo NE SMIJE uprskati, mora odvesti dobru utrku, a sve mimo podija u ovom bolidu i u normalnim okolnostima je los nastup.
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Očekivano na neki način da Russell uskoči, nadam se da će konačno dohvatit (dobre) bodove! Bit će zanimljivo vidjeti što može napraviti netko sa začelja u najboljem bolidu
Iako, čak bi radije vidio Hulka u ovoj prilici, nek se čovjek popne na podij 


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Mislim da je Mercedes lagan za vožnju. Predvidljiv. Znamo da vozi kao po tračnicama. Zato je mislim i Bottas ovako blizu Hamiltonu, jer je lako iz njega izvući maksimum. To su pokazivali i ovi mladi, svaki put kad bi sjeli u Mečku na testiranjima. I Wehrlein i Ocon, pa i Mazepin kad je lani sjeo, svi su završavali na prvim mjestima, bez problema.
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Ako ne može u Q3 sa ovim Mercedesom, nakon tri odrađena treninga, onda može slobodno ići kući. Nije ovo za njega...
Nakon 2 godine u F1, i u punoj formi. Pa sa Williamsom ulazi u Q2. Ako bi tu završio sa Mečkom to bi bila bruka i sramota. Govorim naravno ako ne bude nekih problema.
Nakon 2 godine u F1, i u punoj formi. Pa sa Williamsom ulazi u Q2. Ako bi tu završio sa Mečkom to bi bila bruka i sramota. Govorim naravno ako ne bude nekih problema.
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A treba biti realan. Sto manje ocekujes, vise ces dobiti a manje ces se razocarati. To je tako u cijelom zivotu.
Rasel jes talenat ali mora da to da dokaze vozeci bolid koji je koliko toliko konkurentan. To sto je pobjedio Kubicu i Latifija, ne govori ama bas nista. Ulazak u Q2 je ono sto ga vodi do toga da ima nesto u njemu. A sad jeli je talenat poput Maksa moramo da jos vidimo. Kako znamo da je bolji od Botasa?
I Botas je u Vilijamsu vozio odlicno. I govoriili mu da je veliki talenat. Pa sad ga gledamo vise kao papka a ne talenta.
Rasel jes talenat ali mora da to da dokaze vozeci bolid koji je koliko toliko konkurentan. To sto je pobjedio Kubicu i Latifija, ne govori ama bas nista. Ulazak u Q2 je ono sto ga vodi do toga da ima nesto u njemu. A sad jeli je talenat poput Maksa moramo da jos vidimo. Kako znamo da je bolji od Botasa?
I Botas je u Vilijamsu vozio odlicno. I govoriili mu da je veliki talenat. Pa sad ga gledamo vise kao papka a ne talenta.

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Nece Rusellu biti bas " sjedi u bolid u pobjedi". Jer , koliko god je Mercedes dominantan onm je ipak tu "padobranac" a Bottas je stalno sa tim bolidom. Naravno nije nemoguce , ali daleko od toga da je lagano.
Slazem se da bi Q3 morao biti siguran , najvise iz razloga konfiguracije staze. Nema previse mjesta za velike pogreske. Stisni gas i ostalo bolid radi za tebe.
Slazem se da bi Q3 morao biti siguran , najvise iz razloga konfiguracije staze. Nema previse mjesta za velike pogreske. Stisni gas i ostalo bolid radi za tebe.



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Budimo realni, Max je uletio u RB i pobijedio (nasreću, ali pobijedio), u podjednakom bolidu s Ferrarijima, u istom s Ricom (koji je 3 klase iznad Bottasa)...Merci su ispali. Tako da za Russela, ako je talenat i ne uprska postolje mora biti 90%, realna konkurencija su mu Max i Bottas, pogotovo na ovom vanjskom krugu gdje mu bolid ko od šale nosi 0,5 s.AlkY je napisao/la: 02.12.2020., 10:58 Nece Rusellu biti bas " sjedi u bolid u pobjedi". Jer , koliko god je Mercedes dominantan onm je ipak tu "padobranac" a Bottas je stalno sa tim bolidom. Naravno nije nemoguce , ali daleko od toga da je lagano.
Slazem se da bi Q3 morao biti siguran , najvise iz razloga konfiguracije staze. Nema previse mjesta za velike pogreske. Stisni gas i ostalo bolid radi za tebe.
Ova utrka ga može jako brzo ubaciti u top tim (čak u Merc) ili jako zakočiti u williamsu...primjer Perezovog (pre)ranog prelaska u (padajući) McLaren
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