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Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 13:17
Postao senna66
avetma je napisao/la: 17.03.2019., 12:48 A možda su im napokon uhvatili nekakav trik, pa od tud gubitak moći motora? :)

https://www.f1puls.com/36423/fia-iznena ... ere-goriva
ako je u tome problem onda....... :jbt: :bang:
Ante daj uvedi emotikon koji si puca u glavu, za nas ferrarijevce :rofl: :zubo:

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 13:48
Postao F12000
Zar nije Shell najavljivao neku još bolju mješavinu goriva za Australiju koja bi trebala dodatnu razliku napraviti?

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 21:31
Postao Mr.Spaceguy


Trkači inženjer govori Lecleru da koristi "mode race" tijekom attacking kruga.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 21:37
Postao senna66
https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status/1107298906172477440 https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status/1107226491748794369 https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status/1107225389892583425

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 21:38
Postao F12000
Mr.Spaceguy je napisao/la: 17.03.2019., 21:31

Trkači inženjer govori Lecleru da koristi "mode race" tijekom attacking kruga.
Ovo je kad su pokušali FL ja mislim.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 21:39
Postao Black Queen
Nista od ovoga mi ne ulijeva povjerenje da ce biti bolje u nastavku sezone. :chill:

Nadam se da ce me razuvjeriti.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 22:06
Postao senna66
Koliko god sam danas negativnih prognoza pročitao, mogućih problema Ferrarija itd.... imam neki gut feeling da u Bahreinu gledamo pravi Ferrari. Ne mogu iz ovog vikenda izvući bilo što pozitivno u vezi crvenih kao i mnogi ovdje, ali imam taj osjećaj.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 22:32
Postao F12000
Moja prognoza je dolaženje na +0.3 u kvalifikacijama iza Mercedesa i konkurentna utrka. (wishful thinking) :prcnjau: :rofl: :bang: :bonk:

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 23:02
Postao MSC
Ja se nekako duboko nadam da ćemo za dva tjedna na gridu vidjeti jedan potpuno bolji Ferrari.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 17.03.2019., 23:37
Postao Ferrari
Talijanski site je slušao team radio Vettela cijelu utrku i uspoređivao modove motora u odnosu na prošlu godinu, kao i komunikaciju između Vettela i Adamia (cijelog zida).
Uglavnom ono o čemu se govorilo od Petka...Ferrari najverojatnije ima problem sa motorom tj. pouzdanošću i voze u konzervativnim modovima da bi izbjegli...pa znamo već što.
https://www.livegp.it/f1-gp-australia-f ... ower-unit/

Taking advantage of the work of Alex Brunetti (which you can find on his Twitter account), who followed the race from the pilots' onboard camera and heard all of Sebastian Vettel's radio teams, you may notice a quite unusual use of the Ferrari power unit.

The first strangeness concerns the narrow use of the mapping carried out in the first phase of the race. In fact, Vettel's Rossa goes off with the engine 1 mapping (which should be the most thrust), and after a few laps it passes to a much calmer engine map, engine 5. A very different choice than last season, when it went down gradually from mapping 1 to mapping 3-4. Yet at that stage Vettel had to stay close to the Mercedes duo so as not to let them escape.

The most extreme mapping (engine 1) is authorized only before the German pit stop, which took place during the fifteenth lap, in the race phase in which Ferrari was trying to fill the gap with Lewis Hamilton. This mapping is no longer used even during the defense on Verstappen, during lap number 31. In that phase of the race Vettel's SF-90 was set to a very bland engine mapping, engine 5, when normally, so as not to lose the position, you opt for the mapping engine 1, taking into consideration also the fact that the Dutch had mounted only a few laps the new medium rubber, compared to the yellow rubber already used by about fifteen laps by the German. This explains how Verstappen managed to "strip" the Ferrari into the straight that leads into turn three with a Honda power unit, The quirks continue even in the middle phase of the race, when Vettel begins to "pull" the gears too much, especially on turn 13 and 14, to try to have higher engine revs, presumably to push the MGU-H to the maximum , as if there was a need to recharge so much, taking advantage of an extreme SOC (state of charge) mapping. A few laps later another Vettel radio team arrives in which he talks about "lag" in his power unit, thus a delay in power delivery, perhaps due to a non-perfect functioning of the turbo part?

Feelings relating to a problematic power unit are again recognized by Vettel, who at about twenty laps from the end asks Riccardo Adami if he is all right on his car and asks why he is going very slow, who dribbles the question saying that everything is ok. At the end of the race in Ferrari they decide to freeze the positions, not allowing Leclerc to overtake a Vettel in obvious difficulty.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 00:51
Postao Multi 21
Ferrari je napisao/la: 17.03.2019., 23:37 Talijanski site je slušao team radio Vettela cijelu utrku i uspoređivao modove motora u odnosu na prošlu godinu, kao i komunikaciju između Vettela i Adamia (cijelog zida).
Uglavnom ono o čemu se govorilo od Petka...Ferrari najverojatnije ima problem sa motorom tj. pouzdanošću i voze u konzervativnim modovima da bi izbjegli...pa znamo već što.
https://www.livegp.it/f1-gp-australia-f ... ower-unit/

Taking advantage of the work of Alex Brunetti (which you can find on his Twitter account), who followed the race from the pilots' onboard camera and heard all of Sebastian Vettel's radio teams, you may notice a quite unusual use of the Ferrari power unit.

The first strangeness concerns the narrow use of the mapping carried out in the first phase of the race. In fact, Vettel's Rossa goes off with the engine 1 mapping (which should be the most thrust), and after a few laps it passes to a much calmer engine map, engine 5. A very different choice than last season, when it went down gradually from mapping 1 to mapping 3-4. Yet at that stage Vettel had to stay close to the Mercedes duo so as not to let them escape.

The most extreme mapping (engine 1) is authorized only before the German pit stop, which took place during the fifteenth lap, in the race phase in which Ferrari was trying to fill the gap with Lewis Hamilton. This mapping is no longer used even during the defense on Verstappen, during lap number 31. In that phase of the race Vettel's SF-90 was set to a very bland engine mapping, engine 5, when normally, so as not to lose the position, you opt for the mapping engine 1, taking into consideration also the fact that the Dutch had mounted only a few laps the new medium rubber, compared to the yellow rubber already used by about fifteen laps by the German. This explains how Verstappen managed to "strip" the Ferrari into the straight that leads into turn three with a Honda power unit, The quirks continue even in the middle phase of the race, when Vettel begins to "pull" the gears too much, especially on turn 13 and 14, to try to have higher engine revs, presumably to push the MGU-H to the maximum , as if there was a need to recharge so much, taking advantage of an extreme SOC (state of charge) mapping. A few laps later another Vettel radio team arrives in which he talks about "lag" in his power unit, thus a delay in power delivery, perhaps due to a non-perfect functioning of the turbo part?

Feelings relating to a problematic power unit are again recognized by Vettel, who at about twenty laps from the end asks Riccardo Adami if he is all right on his car and asks why he is going very slow, who dribbles the question saying that everything is ok. At the end of the race in Ferrari they decide to freeze the positions, not allowing Leclerc to overtake a Vettel in obvious difficulty.
Mene zanima gdje je to sve bilo na testiranju? Ili su tamo mijenjali motor svaki dan...
Ma ne može mi nitko reći da je Ferrari bio spor u Barceloni, ako išta uz bok Mercedesu, ako ne i ispred... Što se desilo, samo crveni znaju :bang:

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 01:04
Postao senna66
da to ni meni nije jasno...bili su brzi.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 01:05
Postao Ferrari
Nije mi ovo neočekivano jer bolidi koji su imali Ferrarijev motor su imali najviše kvarova na stazi u Barceloni.
Računaj koliko se puta Haas zaustavio u prvom testu, pa onda Alfa i onda Ferrari u ponajviše drugom testu.

Očito da je u tom drugom testu (sve je počelo sa onim kvarom na hlađenju) počeli izbijati problemi sa PU.
Ferrari je koristio dva motora, tako da nije da su svaki dan mijenjali :D Jedan za prvi test, drugi za drugi test.
Jer ne bi me čudilo da imamo problema zbog našeg pakiranja koje je jako usko straga.

Nadam se da ćemo ovo riješiti, jer dolaze nam ne dvije već TRI staze na kojima je snaga motora SVE.
Bahrain, Kina, Baku...najgori scenarij.

Ako ne popravimo ove probleme, iskreno mogli bi se boriti sa Haasom i ostatkom sredine. Jer nema šanse da konkuriraš, ako imaš ovakve probleme.
Gledao sam danas onboard snimke i primjetio sam da na često opadaju okretaji onako u sredini ravnice, Vettel i Leclerc moraju raditi OGROMAN lift and coast, puno veći od Merca/RBR-a, isto tako de-rate gdje se baterija isključi ranije pa je primjerice Vettel morao rastezati sedmu brzinu da bi dizao okretaje dok se borio sa Maxom.

Vidjet ćemo, ali ekipa u Maranellu mora raditi ne 24h sata na dan, već 25h.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 01:10
Postao f1zd
A jeli taj pad okretaja uzrokovan tim 'safe modeom' tj. jesu li ga oni sami uzrokovali kako bi spriječili kvar ili je fundementalni problem na koji oni nisu mogli utjecati?

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 01:16
Postao Ferrari
f1zd je napisao/la: 18.03.2019., 01:10 A jeli taj pad okretaja uzrokovan tim 'safe modeom' tj. jesu li ga oni sami uzrokovali kako bi spriječili kvar ili je fundementalni problem na koji oni nisu mogli utjecati?
Vjerojatno konzervativni mod motora.
Isto tako mislim da nam je falilo ERS-a jer smo ga morali vrlo vjerojatno više koristiti da bi nekako nadoknadili manjak snage iz samog motora.

Zato je Leclerc skroz usporio u predzadnjem krugu, da napuni bateriju do kraja i pokuša uzeti najbrži krug...

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 01:20
Postao f1zd
Hvala @Ferrari
Uglavnom, nije dobro.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 08:13
Postao Sarma
Ma svi oni pišu svašta i svatko svoje... Mislim da ni u Ferrariju ne znaju još što se točno dogodilo, čak je i Binotto potvrdio da moraju sada sve točno analizirati da bi znali...

Mark Hughes piše da Ferrari ipak nije imao probleme sa PU, nego da je vjerojatno fulan setup kako je i donekle Binotto rekao, loš izlazak iz zavoja i odmah i problemi na pravcu pa su onda vozili u konzervativnom modu motora... Trebalo bi biti sve uredu na Bahreinu, zato kažem svašta se piše, a ne vjerujem nikome, najbolje sačekati iduću utrku i znat će se više puno više nego sada...

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/repo ... rix-report

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 08:33
Postao zekohonda
ima li kakvih podataka o sauberu i haas-u?
izgleda da oni nisu imali probleme sa pu.

Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 08:35
Postao Anonimus4138
Jesu ali u kvalifikacijama,imaju slican problem ko Ricc sto je imo u Monaku,ne pune se baterije valjda dovoljno brzo!

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Postano: 18.03.2019., 08:55
Postao Dani
‘Why are we so slow?’

Ferrari won the phoney war of testing, prompting universal admiration from analysts for the SF90’s balance and poise. But a distant fourth and fifth for Vettel and Charles Leclerc, on debut, represents a poor return for the Scuderia, whose new boss Mattia Binotto finds himself immediately under pressure. “We don’t know,” was the answer that Vettel’s race engineer gave to his driver’s question of “why are we so slow?”

One answer to this question is that Ferrari’s in-wash aero philosophy creates a consistent spread of downforce, but less overall downforce. On the evidence of Australia, this could indeed be the case, while Mercedes’ aggressive out-wash approach creates more intense downforce but leaves the car more on edge.