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Explorer je napisao/la:Ono gore na bolidu je sigurno zagoreni dio, jer se u photoshopu ne može maknut. Da je sjena, moglo bi se nekako.
Što se tiče ruke na volanu, to je teško reći. Savijeni prsti daju prilično ravan izgled, pa je teško reći da li je ruka još uvijek na volanu ili nije.

Vrlo vjerojatno se na kraju neće ništa otkriti, ali ono najvažnije je da je Alonso u redu

hattrick je napisao/la:

Šaka prilikom skretanja u blagim zavojima istina netreba biti, čak neki u njima znaju namještati pri sporijim brzinama postavke, tako da to nije nikakvo pravilo, također prilikom bilo kakvog udarca u pravili se ruke stavljaju uz prsa, jer bi u suprotnom vozači mogli dobiti 'po prstima' od samog volana.

hattrick je napisao/la: Mislim da je ova fotka koju si postala kad je bolid već stao.. no bez obzir na sve, ta različita svjedočanstva i različite kutove gledišta cijela priča je nadasve čudna.

Lady je napisao/la: Dennis je izjavio kako je Alonso u isto vrijeme i kočio i spuštao brzine, a znamo da je mjenjač na volanu, pa bi mi bila i logika s obzirom da je u tom trenu vozio 'samo' 135km/h, da je i volan okrenuo od zida.

But after spending three days in hospital with concussion following a testing accident, what are the possible ramifications for the Spaniard's season - or his career?

Chief F1 writer Andrew Benson spoke to a leading neurosurgeon and head injury expert, Professor Steve Olvey about concussion.

"Concussion is really a spectrum from very mild to more severe, and anywhere along that spectrum you could be required to be in the hospital," Professor Olvey said.

"The majority of concussions actually don't require staying in the hospital, but some that are more severe could go as long as three days.

"It could be longer than that but that would be quite unusual."

Was Alonso concussed?

McLaren chief executive Ron Dennis said in a news conference on Thursday that Alonso was "not even concussed", which contradicted earlier statements made by the team and Alonso's management.

Dennis was mistaken. Alonso was concussed in the accident, in which his head first hit one side of the cockpit and then the other, and after which he was unconscious for an unspecified period of time, which Dennis says the doctors say was "seconds".

Dennis did admit Alonso had suffered retrograde amnesia following the accident - where a patient cannot remember the incident that caused the injury and perhaps other aspects of his life.

Olvey said this was not unusual in concussion injuries and was not in itself a cause for concern.

"It may or may not mean the concussion was more severe than a minor one that clears up in a day or two."

"People with retrograde amnesia have a little more serious concussion than the most minor type, but it does not necessarily mean it will not completely recover. In fact, it would be expected to completely recover."

If doctors believe he suffered some form of cerebral malfunction in the run up to the accident, then that could make a difference in whether he is allowed to return to the cockpit.

What Alonso knocked out?

McLaren did not communicate the speeds and the delay values. But they are now determined. GPS measurements of other teams have shown that Alonso at a speed of 135 lost control and struck 105 km / h in the wall.

The relatively small difference suggests that the Spaniard has tried intervening to save the car yet. If he had said two to three seconds confessed to impact fully on the brake, he had delayed much more.

The first crash occurred at just 31g. This is the delay that has picked up the car. The G-sensors in the ear plugs found a delay of 16 g on the head. The second strike into the wall, the car 18g and the head got from 8g. This is consistent with the testimony of Ron Dennis, who said that the head of the driver accelerates with less than half the power respectively was delayed.

The helmet looked after the crash of so new, as if it came straight out of the package. Not a single scratch. At the inspected by the FIA ​​head and neck protection only slight impressions were found.

The question remains: Was Alonso knocked in contact with the wall? The electric shock theory is completely off the table. The data check revealed that the KERS lamp in accordance with regulations orange illuminated while driving, green while stopped. Thus, the electrical system was fine. The marshals could handle the McLaren immediately.

The fact that he was briefly unconscious, the CT scans later, but brought no results, the doctors has certainly led to caution. Therefore, he remained four days in the hospital, so the doctors advised him from participating in the test.

A voice from the paddock was still skeptical: "Maybe Fernando had a medical problem such as a small stroke That would caution the doctors and the long hospitalization explain more.."

The network also circulated a photo from the control center of the racing line. Of the 40 monitors display the same 3 accident curve (T3) from different perspectives ( >> Link to the photo ). Thus, there must be filming the accident. This raises the question: Is there really a movie, and if so, why he is held back?

Ralf Bach, a respected German correspondent claims on his blog that speculation of Fernando Alonso’s accident during Barcelona testing being caused when he suffered an electrical shock in the cockpit are still doing the rounds, despite McLaren’s denials.

He said electrocution victims are often confused and suffer memory loss, adding that immediately after Alonso’s impact, and according to those at the scene, the Spaniard thought he was still a Ferrari driver.

Bach reports that while Mercedes and Renault have five electrocution fail-safes built in for the drivers, Honda’s new ‘power unit’ only has three. An electric shock, he added, may also not be seen in the telemetry.

As a result, Autosprint report, the FIA now wants to make the use of functioning on-board cameras mandatory not only at grands prix, but also during testing which would need to be ratified by the World Motor Sport Council.

Currently article 27.2 of the rules dictates that cars must be fitted with a crash ‘black box’ at all times, in order to collect data “relevant to an accident or incident”.

“At any time following an accident or incident competitors must make the data recorder available and accessible to the FIA,” the regulations demand.

In the case of Alonso’s still-mysterious testing crash in Barcelona recently, that data alone may be proving insufficient.

McLaren argues that a strong gust of wind blew the Spaniard off the track, but strong paddock rumours continue to suggest that Alonso fell unconscious before he hit the wall.

Certainly, the impact data suggests Alonso – whose helmet was reportedly not at all damaged – did not hit the wall overly hard.

The car recorded a significant 30G hit, but the accelerometer in the driver’s ear showed a value about half of that.

Indeed, Sergio Perez says Alonso’s crash was “not comparable” to his similarly-lateral hit in Monaco 2011, as “mine had an impact of approximately 60G”.

“I wish him the best and hope he will be back soon,” said the Mexican.

The lack of a widely-accepted official version of Alonso’s testing crash means speculation continues to prosper.

The Alonso crash continued employment accident researchers of the FIA. You now know exactly what happened, but no one knows why. Perhaps we will never find out. There remain three big questions to which there is still no answer.

It could be an accident, the FIA ​​will never explain. The crash of Fernando Alonso on the fourth day of testing at Barcelona passes on big mystery. This happened in the accident research the FIA ​​has only once, in a race in a lower formula class.

At that time a car drove to the other, rose and landed upside down on the other driver. The driver, who was sitting in the lower car, did remain unharmed, but his helmet was in a terrible state. You could never determine why, despite a reconstruction of the accident in the laboratory.

Even with Alonso there is this discrepancy. The data tell you exactly what is in Alonso's 21 round on 22 February in the Curva Renault has played the Circuit de Catalunya. But that's not the problem. It is not known why the accident is run. The only person who could bring about enlightenment, can not remember. Alonso has a blackout for the time of the accident.
Alonso slows and turns down 3 courses

According to the data records is Alonso's highest speed at the entrance of the long right turn at 215 km / h. Then the Spaniards rises on the brakes and turned down three times. The McLaren remains in this phase is relatively stable on his line.

Why Alonso has so extremely delayed, is unclear. McLaren assumes that the strong side wind has played a role. However, in such cases, a driver of the class of Alonso brakes usually not so dissimilar. Especially in the outer region of the curve 3 is enough asphalt to save himself. Since a sufficient time down turn.

When the rate has dropped to 135 km / h, the data show the second oddity. The McLaren bends abruptly towards the inside of the curve. But why? Apparently Alonso himself has directed more to the right. From then on, the pilot loses control.

A report by the BBC, who had indicated a speed of 215 km / h at the time of loss of control, made last week just for irritation. But at the time in the first part of the curve Alonso was apparently still able to respond.
Just 30 km / h in 3 seconds delay

In Phase 3 of the accident, the greatest mystery follows. The McLaren controls on its unfortunate path inside straight on the wall and rebounds with about 105 km / h so unhappy at right angles to the barriers that the first impact is relatively hard with 31g fails. For Vettel Alonso saw foray into the wall therefore not at all like a real accident from.

Funny thing is that the driver has apparently made no attempt in these last three seconds, more easily steer away from the wall. Or continue to slow. He loses during this period, only 30 km / h.

Strange is that McLaren said at the press conference, one can not understand this last seconds. This leads to the suspicion that they wanted to protect the driver might conceal a crucial detail. Namely, that Alonso has done nothing during this period to prevent or mitigate the impact wall.

Ron Dennis admitted after all that Alonso was briefly unconscious. He also admitted that one could not say with certainty what this consciousness has triggered. This will now find the FIA. Ranged from the first blow against the wall that Alonso was briefly ko? In the earplug sensors almost half of the impact energy of the car was measured according to Dennis. It was 16g.

At the helm were found according to eyewitnesses no damage. Not even scratch marks. Now the head and neck protection of the car is examined in more detail. At its deformation can perhaps determine whether the whiplash from right to left the pilot could have knocked.
Damage to the McLaren is excluded

If one interprets the data logically, then something must have happened at the fastest point of cornering, the Alonso seemed funny. Otherwise he would not so massively reduces the speed. Damage to the car is ruled according to McLaren. All data were alright. This was also confirmed from FIA circles.

The FIA ​​also denied the shock theory. As long as the vehicle was in motion, lit the lamp orange. Ten seconds after shutdown of the car, the pilot jumped up green. A sure sign that the electrical circuit, everything was fine.

Ron Dennis said also the fact that you could find in terms of certain enzymes within 48 hours after the accident, if the body had come into contact with electric current. This was not the case with Alonso. Dennis will hardly be so stupid as to say that if he had feared to be refuted by the doctors.

Alonso had perhaps not quite comfortable in this phase of the accident and therefore thrown a precaution the anchor? There are many indications. The reaction to steer the car at the last second inward from the line of fire. The fact that then from the cockpit neither great nor steering movements braking maneuvers were received, suggests that the driver had lost control of his vehicle before the contact with the wall.

Sure seems that Alonso was at least unconscious from the impact. The McLaren needs, according to the team for 15 seconds, until he came to a halt. Alonso then would not respond, the stopping distance would have been much shorter.

Even the medical finding is puzzling. McLaren boss Ron Dennis did not speak first of a concussion, although the pilot after impact was briefly unconscious. This usually implies the diagnosis of "concussion".

The only logical conclusion is that the delay of a 16g time and had not been for the second time from 8g to the head so bad trigger this unconsciousness. So they could have had other reasons. For example, a medical problem. Maybe that's why Alonso spent 4 days in the hospital to find out exactly.