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Alonsove izjave u clanku sumiraju cijelu situaciju. Odredeni bolidi izgledaju prelijepo i poznavajuci njihovu proslost i status u sportu tesko je ocekivati da su totalno promasili koncept, no opet nije za odbacit i tu mogucnost. Cijeli Alpine mi se cudno ponasa vec duze vrijeme, a to su mi potvrdili s onim kaosom na kraju prosle sezone. Njima plan pohoda na vrh sporta traje od 2016. i nakon 2-3 promjene pravila i dalje nisu niti blizu. Nadam se onoj poznatoj da se ne sudi knjigu po koricama, ali sto smo vec ranije komentirali, ako nista, onda svakako izgledaju kao backmarkeri. Od forsiranja “El plana” najgori bi im scenarij bio da opet budu u donjem dijelu grida. Poucen iskustvom, mislim da se previse fanova “pali” na Alonsove izjave. Na kraju krajeva on je tu da vozi i ocekuje bolid konkurentan za pobjede. Hoce li mu to tim isporuciti ili ne jos malo pa cemo saznati. Bilo bi tragikomicno da ga vec sutra doceka raspad od motora i nekonkurentan bolid. Svi su oprezni po pitanju nagadanja gdje se nalaze u poretku. Ocekivalo se puno i od 2017. pa je omjer snaga ostao isti pa nije nemoguce da i ove sezone bude tako. Malo sam razocaran Alpineom sto se tice kompletnog plana i programa za nadolazecu sezonu. Ako je suditi po ovome sto su nam do sada predstavili (s marketinske strane, izjava, ambicija itd.) ovaj tim ne lici nimalo na onaj sampionski iz 2005. Nada umire zadnja! Nije niti Briatore najavljivao tada naslove i pobjede pa eto iznenadenja.

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Jeli je Okon i dalje vozac Mercedesa ili nije? Zna li ko sa sigurnoscu?
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Nista od El Plana :bonk:

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Alpine će biti ili pobjednički bolid ili backmarker. :zubo:
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Kao i uvijek, vremena s testiranja nista ne znace, ali tim koji radi 6.-7. vremena nece sigurno doci na prvi trkaci vikend i biti u vrhu. Pricekat cemo kraj testiranja za konkretnije zakljucke, ali mene je vise strah da se promjena u omjeru snaga izmedu momcadi nije uopce dogodila.

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senna66 je napisao/la:Alpine će biti ili pobjednički bolid ili backmarker. :zubo:
Bilo bi lijepo da alonso uzme naslov.

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Ma moraju bit blize i na testiranjima da bi bili ozbiljni konkurenti, ovo je predaleko. Ni ostali ne idu punim gasom, sve u svemu, lose.

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Ljudi danas je prvi dan testiranja.
Koja vremena, koga briga za vremena?

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The Simpsons je napisao/la: 23.02.2022., 16:44 Ljudi danas je prvi dan testiranja.
Koja vremena, koga briga za vremena?
Ma voze sa manjom snagom motora, Alonso je daleko najsporiji na speed trapu sa preko 20kmh u odnosu na prva 3.
Tko zna sto sve testiraju kao sto si rekao prvi je dan.
"postoje 22 pilota,šest od njih su dobri,tri su izuzetna,ali postoji samo genije,to je Alonso" #JackieStewart

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The Simpsons je napisao/la: 23.02.2022., 16:44 Ljudi danas je prvi dan testiranja.
Koja vremena, koga briga za vremena?
Ma voze sa manjom snagom motora, Alonso je daleko najsporiji na speed trapu sa preko 20kmh u odnosu na prva 3.
Tko zna sto sve testiraju kao sto si rekao prvi je dan.
Ko zna šta testiraju. Oni znaju. Mi znamo da je PU skroz novi koncept i vjerojatno je to u pitanju. Oprezno dok ne dobiju podatke i sl.
Neće ga odvrnut do kraja prvi dan?
Ne znamo ni koliko goriva nose, skoro ništa ne znamo? Osim vremena koje neke nervira🥴
Da su u garaži radi kvara zabrinuo bih se ovako je još dobro dok vozi.

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Krstas je napisao/la: 23.02.2022., 00:18 Jeli je Okon i dalje vozac Mercedesa ili nije? Zna li ko sa sigurnoscu?
malo guglam, ovo je zadnje što sam pronašao po tom pitanju:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... vZrhp.html
The FIA will take all necessary action to protect the sport and its role and reputation as regulator of the FIA Formula One World Championship.

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Test u Barceloni je gotov za Alpine.. katastrofa

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Smrdi mi na to da bi Alpine mogao imati lošu sezonu...

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Realno gledajuci nisu puno izgubili, jedno popodne, nista katastrofalno. Ono sto zabrinjava s druge strane, pace im je nikakav. Sumnjam da imaju vise vrecica pijeska od ostalih, svi se suzdrzavaju i ne voze punim gasom. Ili su spori ili voze sa jako puno rezerve (ne vjerujem u ovu drugu opciju i ipak mislim da su spori)

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Ja vjerujem da su vozili s vecom dozom rezerve, ali kao sto rekoh jos ranije. Netko tko je na testiranjima bio daleko od prvog mjesta, tesko da ima pobjednicki bolid. Sva su mi vremena slabo reprezentativna. Williams je odvezao na C2 1:20.6. Alpineovo najbrze vrijeme je ovo od danas kada nisu imali ni priliku voziti brze. Bahrein ce biti malo reprezentativniji, vozit ce se pripreme za utrku, donijeti puno vise nadogradnji i imat cemo live prijenos. Vremena ipak i dalje smatram nebitnima jer tko se sjeca predsezonskog testa 2018., sjeca se da je Alonso zadnjeg dana testiranja imao vrijeme pri samome vrhu.

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Alonso king je napisao/la: 25.02.2022., 13:38 Ja vjerujem da su vozili s vecom dozom rezerve, ali kao sto rekoh jos ranije. Netko tko je na testiranjima bio daleko od prvog mjesta, tesko da ima pobjednicki bolid. Sva su mi vremena slabo reprezentativna. Williams je odvezao na C2 1:20.6. Alpineovo najbrze vrijeme je ovo od danas kada nisu imali ni priliku voziti brze. Bahrein ce biti malo reprezentativniji, vozit ce se pripreme za utrku, donijeti puno vise nadogradnji i imat cemo live prijenos. Vremena ipak i dalje smatram nebitnima jer tko se sjeca predsezonskog testa 2018., sjeca se da je Alonso zadnjeg dana testiranja imao vrijeme pri samome vrhu.

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How no DRS and heavy fuel load disguised Alpine's F1 test progress
Alpine says not running DRS in testing and using deliberately heavy fuel loads disguised the step forward it believes it has made with its new Formula 1 car.


Fernando Alonso and Esteban Ocon had a low-key week at the first Barcelona pre-season test, before running was cut short by an hydraulics problem on the final day.

But even though the team never featured near the top of the timesheets, Alpine thinks a combination of factors meant its true potential was never going to be on display.

One of the key contributors was a decision not to run DRS in the test – which was worth around seven tenths of a second per lap – but the team also elected to run heavier on fuel at the test than it normally would.

And having finally found a good setup with the car on the final morning, which helped Alonso deliver his fastest lap of the test, its running was cut short by a split hydraulic pipe that triggered a car fire.

Sporting director Alan Permane said the DRS and fuel factors automatically held back its laptimes, but believed the reality was the team had a better week than it looked from the outside.

“I don't want to sound like I'm making excuses, and I'm not saying we're going to go out and beat Mercedes and Red Bull, but I think we are in a decent position,” he said.

“The lap Fernando did [on the final] morning, although it was only one lap, it's very comparable to what [Max] Verstappen did at the same time, albeit Verstappen is using DRS.

“If you overlay the GPS, which we can do with the systems we have from the FIA, the traces are almost identical apart from the straights where we lose a huge amount of time.

“Fernando was super happy with the car. We found some significant stuff on setup overnight and we've really calmed the rear of the car down.


“Had we put another C3 on at that point, there was going to be another three or four tenths, and then all of a sudden you're looking very, very close.

“I don't want to say everything's fine and we are completely chilled. Of course, we're concerned. But it's in no way are we going to be at the bottom of the timesheets.

“My gut feel is that we are probably a little bit closer to the front than we were at the end of last year.”

The decision by Alpine not to run DRS was made on the opening day, and was triggered by some concerns it had about high-speed aero loads.

The team has no concerns that the issue won't be addressed in time for the next test in Bahrain.

“It was just something on the car and we were just not comfortable,” added Permane. “I'll be honest with you, it's related to top speed so it's a load thing. We're just being cautious.

“It's not that we can't do it, or we're scared or we're worried about anything, or we think something's going to break. We're just being cautious.

“We just thought, let's just not take the risk. Let's just use this week to fill miles and then go to Bahrain with everything ready to go there.

“It's a shame because it's a big performance gain, it's over seven tenths per lap for us around here. So it's a big old chunk of laptime. But that's just where we are.”
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/how-n ... s/8513110/

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Alpine danas s novijom verzijom sidepoda (barem ju ja do sada nisam vidio). Neki elementi slicni kao na Ferrariju i Red Bullu. Mislim da ce timovu prvih nekoliko utrka poprilicno naporno raditi i isprobavati koncepte.

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Nije im puno izdržao. :mrgreen:

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Alpine CEO Laurent Rossi says that Fernando Alonso has lost his first engine of the season after his retirement from the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix.
Alonso was forced to retire midway through the race after a ‘cool the car’ warning message suddenly appeared on his steering wheel. Rossi says that a water pump problem has led to Alonso’s ICE being no longer usable.

“The problem is that this part (water pump) is integrated into the engine, the water pump degraded and fell into the workings of the engine,” Rossi told French publication AutoHebdo.

“If we wanted to repair the engine, we would have had to break the seal and so we have lost that engine. Even if its physical integrity wouldn’t be affected, it’s one less engine for us.”
The FIA will take all necessary action to protect the sport and its role and reputation as regulator of the FIA Formula One World Championship.
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