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Lorenzo pokosi trojicu 100% kriv kazna nikome napada na pamet, to je utrkivanje a ne f1

Šteta. Baš me zanimalo hoće li Lorenzo imati tempo da prati vodeće. Ali ako bi Dovizioso držao prvo, sigurno bi bila velika kolona iza njega. On i Petrucci samo znaju zadržavati iza sebe...

VRSV546 je napisao/la: 16.06.2019., 16:35 Lorenzo pokosi trojicu 100% kriv kazna nikome napada na pamet, to je utrkivanje a ne f1

Pa ne bih se baš složio, nije poanta čistog utrkivanja da se ništa ne kažnjava. Problem s kaznama u F1 je u tome što su previše nekonzistentne, nekad kažnjavaju gluposti koje ne bi trebali, a nekad ne kazne ono što bi trebali i onda nastaju nepotrebne kontroverze.

Mislim da je Jorge zaslužio poštenu kaznu, ipak je isključivo svojom greškom iz utrke izbacio trojicu vozača, mislim da bi 10 mjesta kazne na gridu bilo sasvim prikladno. Kad već spominjem konzistentnost sudaca, nisu ni u MotoGP-u idealni, baš čitam kako je Smith za rušenje Espargara (kojem je nažalost pritom stradalo koljeno) u istom zavoju kao i Lorenzo dobio 3 mjesta kazne za idući nastup.

Izgleda da i tamo ima svetih krava.
Pa kad se sjetim šta su "uradili" Jackassu ove godine u Argentini.....

VRSV546 je napisao/la: 16.06.2019., 16:35 Lorenzo pokosi trojicu 100% kriv kazna nikome napada na pamet, to je utrkivanje a ne f1

Lorenzo je zaslužio debelu kaznu za ono...pa ne možeš izbaciti sebe i još trojicu iz utrke i ne proći bez kazne.
To nije utrkivanje, ono je čista glupost što je napravio.

meni ovo nije glupost nego greška. koju treba kazniti s obzirom na posljedice.

Trkaći incident, ništa više. Opasnije je bilo ono Vinalesovo na kraju kvalifikacija...

Grah0 je napisao/la: 17.06.2019., 19:30 Trkaći incident, ništa više. Opasnije je bilo ono Vinalesovo na kraju kvalifikacija...

Vinales je zasluženo dobio kaznu od 3 mjesta u utrci...

Po kojoj definiciji ovo što je Lorenzo napravio NIJE za kaznu? Krivo je procjenio, prekasno kočio i izbacio efektivno 3 druga vozača iz utrke?

Grah0 je napisao/la: 17.06.2019., 19:30 Trkaći incident, ništa više. Opasnije je bilo ono Vinalesovo na kraju kvalifikacija...

Ma nije Lorenzo napravio nešto extra opasno, ali je za kazne, što jest jest.
Izbacio je trojicu iz trke, plus kad uzmemo u obzir Vinalesovu kaznu....

Ferrari je napisao/la:

Grah0 je napisao/la: 17.06.2019., 19:30 Trkaći incident, ništa više. Opasnije je bilo ono Vinalesovo na kraju kvalifikacija...

Vinales je zasluženo dobio kaznu od 3 mjesta u utrci...

Po kojoj definiciji ovo što je Lorenzo napravio NIJE za kaznu? Krivo je procjenio, prekasno kočio i izbacio efektivno 3 druga vozača iz utrke?

Je li Rossi dobio kaznu u Jerezu 11-te? Mišljenja sam da i Iannone ne bi 16-te dobio kaznu da nije imao par sličnih situacija iste godine. A i ta 10 krivina je pravo loša za MotoGP.

Lorenzo si je osigurao novi ugovor ovim potezom. Bravo Horhe.

Mali podsjetnik na vremena kada u moto gp-u nije bilo toliko podilaženja određenim proizvođačima. Nikakve asimetrične gume ili aero dodaci.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VqufZiFllo

2009 se vozilo na asimetričnim gumama... Btw kakve veze imaju asimetrične gume?

Grah0 je napisao/la: 20.06.2019., 11:14 2009 se vozilo na asimetričnim gumama... Btw kakve veze imaju asimetrične gume?

Vozilo se samo na ovoj stazi. I to je bio bridgestone. Ima itekako veze, pogotovo ove michelinke. Po mnogim vozačima ovo su jedne od najgorih guma na kojima su vozili.
Evo recimo Stonerova izjava na asimetrične bridgestonice 2010.
Q: Are you looking forward to having Bridgestone's asymmetric tires here?

Casey Stoner: We've had the asymmetric tires at almost every race this season, and they've been terrible, to be honest. I can't lie, they've been terrible, and I think every other rider can complain with me in the same way.

Already last year we had some difficulties, but they said last year we had the same compound side to side. But with Bridgestone, it's a different situation, I've been with them for quite a few years now, and I understood many times that if we had the same compound on both sides, sometimes a very hard compound, a lot of the time the other side would warm up a lot better than an asymmetric tire.

So when we come here and we have asymmetric compounds, I've found many times in the past that I didn't like the feeling of it, it never really wanted to warm up. I don't know whether it's because of the connection, that it doesn't really work the same with the tire, but we can never get the side of the tire that we don't spend so much time on to really warm up. So no matter how soft it is, it's difficult to get it working. Coming to a track like this, with cold weather like this could be interesting.

Q: On the asymmetric the harder part, only the harder part is different for the other?

CS: Both sets are different. Normally, the softer side will be the same, and on the left side, it will be a different compound. But it's not just a separate compound, it's a different family of tire. It's a different way it's constructed, it's a different type of rubber. What doesn't make sense is that, say in these last races, the softer tires have actually been constructed in the past to withstand more heat, to withstand higher temperatures. So we have a harder compound for higher temperatures, but yet the softer compound is better for withstanding temperatures, so there's no real sense to what they're doing...

Q: So you're saying that with two different compounds, it's not transferring the heat in the softer, so it's better to have one compound with the actual tires, because it transfers the heat better?

CS: Not always. But many times in the past.

Q: It's even worse, because you do not know how it will go...

CS: Exactly. So we use one tire which is probably the soft one this year - it's not soft, it was very hard - and now every soft tire at every track, we can do the race, no problem. No matter how hot the race is, we can run with the soft tire. And for me this is ridiculous, because as soon as we have low temperatures, it becomes dangerous.

So in these last four races, I'm running the softer option, something I've never done in my career with Bridgestone. Because to be honest, we just can't get the harder one to work, it's impossible, it's a stone. It doesn't want to work at all. So everyone is running with the softer option, because they're able to get this one working. And to be honest, it's durable enough for the heat, for the temperatures. So there's no real sense to have the harder one, this should be the hard one and they should make one softer or vice versa.

Q: Have you had this problem for a long time?

CS: It's because they have control. It's a control tire, they have control of everything.

Još malo i privilegiranom statusu honde:
Michelin’s Two-Wheel Manager Piero Taramasso
“Since Marc Marquez came it has changed. He goes far off the bike and he brakes very late and strong and puts a lot of force on the front tyre. We had to do a large review: it is more than an evolution, it is more of a revolution – we changed casing, profile, compound.

“We worked a lot for the first season [in 2016], and half of the second, and I would say we made gains of 75 per cent compared to the past. We improved the grip and the feedback for the rider. And we plan to make one more step for next season. We will test new fronts this year to improve feedback and for feeling in the first part of the corner, for [improved] braking and turning.”

Kao što sam već prije rekao, dorna je uništila ovaj sport, a te naznake se vide i u superbikeu kojeg su preuzeli prije par godina. Španjolski monopolizam.

Kako su ga to uništili? Po nekoliko vozača se svaki vikend bori za trijumf, nije monotono ko F1...
Pregledaj Assen, PI, Mugello itd pa se javi.

Gledam itekako. Par dobrih utrka godišnje nije spektakl. Kada je zadnji put bio prvak netko osim Marqueza?

Znači čim je neko stalno prvak trke su dosadne? Nema veze što imamo 4 proizvođača koja se bore za pobjede i podije... Ispade bolje bile trke 2009 kad su se 2-3 vozača borila za trijumf...

slažem se s grahom. utrke su zanimljive i to je najbitnije. niti je honda najbrža i najbolja, jednostavno mm radi razliku.
zasad imamo 4 različita pobjednika i 9 vozača na podiju.

Jorgovan se razbio na treningu, otišao je u medicinski centar na pregled...