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Post 13.02.2015., 00:07 Fernando Alonso

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Datum rođenja: 29.7.1981
Mjesto rođenja: Oviedo, Španjolska
Momčad: McLaren
Utrka: 236
TItule prvaka: 2 (2005. i 2006.)
Pobjede: 32
Pole positioni: 22
Postolja: 97
Najbrži krugovi: 21
Bodovi: 1767
Bivše momčadi: Minardi (2001.), Renault (2003. - 2006., 2008. - 2009.) i Ferrari (2010. - 2014.)

Nakon 5 godina u Maranellu, Španjolac se odlučio vratiti u Mclaren iz kojeg je doslovno izbačen. Izgleda da su Ron Dennis i Fernando Alonso zakopali ratne sjekire iz 2007. te se zajedno bacaju na novi projekt, staro partnerstvo McLaren Hondu. Fernando je bolid u Maranellu čekao i čekao, no kraju ga nije uspio dočekati pa je zgrabio priliku i otišao u nepoznato kako bi uspio osvojiti svoj treći, toliko priželjkivani naslov. Mislite li da s McLarenom to može učiniti?
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Post 25.02.2015., 10:53 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Alonso: why remains in hospital

Fernando Alonso wants to go home, but doctors Hospital General de Catalunya in Barcellon are not willing to release him as long as they feel pain. The Spaniard still accuses headaches and severe pain in the shoulders and back, even if the diagnostic tests did not reveal any particular pathologies.

The Asturian is hospitalized in a private hospital and Catalan is not, therefore, in intensive care where cell phone use is rightly banned so it will not interfere with the machines that keep alive the other patients. Can receive visits: at his side over to the parents alternate also the preparer, Fabrizio Borra, and the manager, José Luis García Abad that afternoon said: "I can not say if it will take a day, two or three of hospitalization. his presence in the next session? The most important tests at the time is the evidence that doctors are doing. "

The side impact of his McLaren MP4-30 Honda has had a heavier than it might seem to those who saw the car after the accident occurred Sunday at 12.36 at the exit of Turn 3 of the fearsome track of Montmelo, while Spanish was later exposed by Sebastian Vettel with Ferrari SF15-T.

The Woking team, after a reconstruction of the facts, has blamed the crash to a gust of wind: an excuse beautiful and good that, for a change, leads to blame the pilot, according to a well established fashion in Formula 1 . The Spanish champion, hardly accept this theory, and McLaren has certainly chosen the best way to start a relationship with the Iberian.

We were at the racetrack and we can testify that in the morning there were sudden icy gusts that reached 45 km / h (we have witnessed in a piece before the bang of Fernando) with frequent changes of direction, but after noon there was a sharp decrease in the intensity of the gusts.

Putting together the details that are emerging from the statements made ​​by the same Fernando to friends, it is clear that the two-time world champion would have impacted the wall sideways, first with the right rear (the circle is damaged, causing even a slight loss of pressure of the rubber) and then with the right front.

The MP4-30, then, according to the account of the McLaren, would not have reported significant damage from (the suspension arms are not broken). And just this eventuality is that should give pause: the cars are provided deformable areas to reduce the effects of kinetic energy on the body of the pilot.

In this case, however, there was minimal absorption so that the 'impact, even at slow speed, it is transferred for the most part on Fernando Alonso. Studies on the crash are made specifically for frontal impacts. The Hans collar reduces the effects of whiplash and should prevent the driver's head is pushed away in a direction that tends to "tear" from the rest of the body, as the conductor is securely fastened to the seat with the seat belts to six points .

It works perfectly in the front impact, while it may not be as effective in side crashes. And it is the case of Fernando who suffered trauma inertial angle: according to the neurosurgeon that we felt the Spaniard should have suffered a pulled neck side due to the weight of the head and the helmet that may have led to the slight was commotio brain.

The elongation of the neck, also, may have caused a resentment of the vagus nerve, causing the sensation of vomiting and the effect of a sort of "shock" to the spine (nothing to do with hybrid systems or batteries, mind you!).

The conditions of Alonso, then, judging by the doctor are compatible with the incident that the McLaren driver suffered Sunday in Barcelona. The crash of the McLaren highlights a weakness of the current car: side protection of the head are not enough to curb even the impacts of smaller (although the safety sensor FIA came on in the cockpit, a sign that the telemetry machine has detected an energy greater than 15G).

In short, it was essential that there was an electrical ERS to electrocute Alonso, as many continue to argue, without being able to bring a shred of concrete evidence. If so, the FIA ​​would be irresponsible to run the cars in the last session of collective testing which will begin precisely in Barcelona Thursday: we should stop everything as long as you do not have precise answers.

In the images of the incident published by Brand has clearly noticed the green LED below the camera: when there is a potential leakage current (also electro-static), the LED is red or orange, and no one can touch the car without being equipped special insulating gloves.

We believe the McLaren when he argues that there was no electric discharge over Alonso, but we do not support the theory of the Rafale as the cause of the accident.

And if we were Jenson Button, who will be back on track in a couple of days with the MP4-30 precise assurances we would not go off track if ever there should be any gust during the last session of collective testing ...

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F1 | Accident Alonso: Vidal denies McLaren

February 24, 2015 - Despite the press McLaren and the reassuring words of 'entourage of Alonso, the contours of the incident dell'asturiano are still very uncertain. This morning, Jordi Vidal, the photographer who took the only pictures of the event and witnessed the incident, denied the reconstruction made ​​by Mclaren.

After the words of the manager and Woking, Flavio Briatore (who had already expressed a tweet Sunday night) has spoken about what happened in Spain, reassuring on the conditions of Alonso: "It was just an accident. From the telemetry we see that was trying to keep the car on the track, "said the microphones of Rai Gr Parliament. "It is the second serious accident he had in his career, the first was in 2004 in Sao Paulo, when the impact was very hard," he added, recalling the incident in the final stages of the Brazilian GP 2003 (not 2004) when the Renault center debris left by Jaguar's Webber then ending violently wall. "The important thing is that medical tests are all negative. He does not remember the incident, but it is normal. I think tomorrow (today, ed) will come out. " The former Renault team principal also wanted to refute the many voices on the technical problems of the car: "I do not understand these stories, it was a normal accident. Unfortunately these things happen, even with a driver like Fernando, because G forces are tremendous. Other times the incident is much more spectacular and you do not do anything. "

o, just a set of unfortunate incidents: Alonso goes on synthetic grass, loses grip, the strong wind pushes him to the wall, and the impact that requires two days of hospital. But the dynamics of the incident, released yesterday by the press team, something does not. Either because Vettel had not made ​​mention of any error and immediately talked of low speed maneuvering and strange, and because Jordi Vidal, today, via Twitter , reiterated his version that contradicts that of Mclaren: "Seeing that there are controversies about the incident Alonso, I tell you what I saw. I do not want controversy. I started taking pictures at Turn 1, down the straight, with the sun behind and a lot of wind, which bothered much, same thing in Turn 2. I went to the outside of the track and I stopped at the Turn 3, where I had the sun in my face and there was no wind. I stopped there for a moment to take pictures, that's why I took the time. I'm looking at the sequence of photos, including two where Alonso is on track. "

" Do not touch the green zone (the outside of the track, ed) with no wheel, the car does not have anything strange, the only thing I saw that was slower. Vettel was right behind him, in the sequence than when Alonso this is close to the wall, and went to a speed much higher than that of Fernando. And in the sequence known that neither the first nor the second braking are of Alonso. Again, I'm no expert. The impact does not seem to have been strong , but then again I'm not an expert, I am a humble worker with the hobby of photography. The last thing I say is that McLaren has called me to the pits with the chief of engineers to show him the photos, nothing more. And again, I'm just telling you what I saw. "

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Post 25.02.2015., 11:33 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Ma Alonso je <3 <3 <3 a njega je gledati cista uzivancija :kokice:

Post 25.02.2015., 17:07 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Post 25.02.2015., 19:35 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Aaaa nema digački Edit ? :( ...moram duplat ...ok

i Video izašao :cool: ... pusice dijeli :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSlwYdq ... e=youtu.be
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Post 26.02.2015., 11:02 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Alonso je doma u Oviedu, gdje se oporavlja
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-t5L7MW0AA4b3q.jpg:large

Melbourne je pod upitnikom, vjerojatno će sljedeći tjedan znati hoće li voziti ili ne

Post 26.02.2015., 12:11 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Jedan zanimljiv clanak o Gil De Ferran-u bivsem vozacu Indy serije, inace 2 x šampionom te klase, koji je imao slicnih problema kao Alonso ili bar tako on smatra!

Ovo se moze uzeti sa malom dozom brige:
De Ferran added: "It seems that if Alonso had to spend three days in hospital, it's fairly serious.
još i ovo:
"I had a lot of broken bones and so on, but concussions are by far the worst type of injury a racing driver can incur.
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Post 26.02.2015., 14:34 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Ron Dennis answered plenty of questions surrounding Fernando Alonso's curious Barcelona accident on Sunday, but speaking on SSNHQ just now, David Croft explained why there were still several unanswered ones too:

“Why would you not ask the driver what his recollections of the accident were? Surely, as in any situation in life, you ask the people you ask the people that are there. To me, even though Ron said we don’t want to speculate, I don’t think that was a satisfactory answer as to why they didn’t sit down with Fernando when he was feeling well and normal and happy and say ‘what do you remember about it?’

“Ron has done very well in trying to address a lot of the speculation that is out there, certainly on the subject of electrocution, electric shocks and some of those theories. But I still want to know why Alonso hasn’t been asked.”
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Post 26.02.2015., 20:18 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Evo videa odmah nakon sudara. Tu se točno vidi da nije uopče reagirao kad su došli do njega.

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Post 26.02.2015., 22:25 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Danas na testovima Vettel je ponovo otišao u McLarenov stožer.. vjerovatno kako bi rasčistitio situaciju oko Alonsovog incidenta, jer je među glavnima u odboru vozača. Sad, pitanje je dali je ovog puta otišao samoinicijativno ili na Denisov poziv. Moram priznati da se cijela ta situacija sa Alonsom dobrano spetljala kroz različite priče koje su dospjele u medije.. te činjenice da je od izgledom 'bezazlene' situacije zaletavanja bočno u zid završilo sa dosta ozbiljnim mogućim posljedicama za Alonsa, jer ga sigurno ne bi toliko zadržali na pretragama toliko dugo da nešto nije teže posrijedi, te bi sigurno Alonso sudjelovao na daljnjim testiranjima da je prošlo bez većih posljedica. Da bude još čudnija stvar, sad se čak špekulira kako neće biti na prvoj utrci... a nakon prvih pretraga je rečeno da su nalazi potpuno uredni, te da nema posljedica.

Zanimljivi šaljivi komentar jednog F1 insajdera na današnji Vettelov posjet McL :D
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Post 27.02.2015., 01:24 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Fernando Alonso not certain to race in F1 opener after crash in testing

McLaren’s miseries continued here on Thursday when the team were unable to confirm that Fernando Alonso would take part in the opening Formula One race of the season, while on the track Jenson Button had to quit testing after only seven laps because of a hydraulics problem.

McLaren, who have been reunited with the engine suppliers Honda for the new season, have found testing sessions precisely that since they got under way in Jerez at the start of the month. However, the accident that befell Alonso here last Sunday was the biggest setback of all, and even though he was absent on Thursday he continued to dominate proceedings.

The feeling is that he will be fit for the opening round in Melbourne on 15 March. However, the fact that Ron Dennis, chairman and chief executive of the McLaren Group, was unable to confirm it merely fuelled the speculation that has been running wild on social media since the weekend, most of it suggesting there was more to the accident than met the eye.

When Dennis was asked about Alonso’s chances of making it to Australia, he replied the matter was in the hands of the doctors and the FIA. “It’s unquantifiable. I can’t foresee any reason why not but I’m not the doctor,” he said. “There will be some tests, there are processes laid down within the FIA, and I can’t see any reason why he won’t sail through. But it’s not for me to determine. It’s not for me to say yes or no.”

There have been all sorts of rumours about Alonso’s crash at Turn 3 of the Circuit de Catalunya, including the suggestion he was unconscious at the time of the accident and may even have been electrocuted. When the driver spent three nights in hospital – he came out on Wednesday – doubts began to emerge about his fitness to take part in the opening race.

“People are saying we’re concealing, we’re doing this, we’re doing that, and it’s a complete fabrication,” Dennis said. “We’ve told you the facts.” However, his attempts to clear the muddied waters faltered when he said Alonso had suffered no injuries from the crash, despite the fact that on Sunday both an official McLaren statement and Eric Boullier, the team’s racing director, confirmed the driver had suffered concussion.

Alonso had CT and MRI scans. But having said Alonso was “devoid of all injuries”, Dennis then admitted: “There was a period of unconsciousness. It was relatively short. There were reports of some inability to recall – again that’s normal when you’re shaken like this.” Asked why Alonso had been detained in hospital for so long, he replied: “Head injuries are centre stage at the moment. There is a great deal of focus on head injuries.”

If Alonso does not take part in Melbourne it will mean a quick return to F1 for Kevin Magnussen, the man ditched by McLaren to make way for Alonso, but who has been retained by the team as their test and reserve driver.

The Dane will test on Friday hoping to fare better than Button, who on the opening day of the final testing session completed only seven laps, the fastest of which was eight seconds slower than Felipe Massa’s pace-setting Williams. On that basis, Alonso will be a lot fitter for Australia than McLaren.

Lewis Hamilton also impressed in the morning, setting the pace on medium rubber before a problem with the hybrid system ruled him out of the running in the afternoon.

Meanwhile, the GP3 driver Carmen Jordá, 26, has joined Lotus as a development driver. The team said the Spaniard would get “a significant simulator programme” as well as a drive in the new E23 later in the year. She said: “I’ve been racing since I was 10 years old so it was my dream to drive a Formula One car since I was very young.

“I will be working to improve myself as a driver as well as helping the team to develop the car by testing new developments in the simulator. It’s such a fantastic opportunity.”

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Post 27.02.2015., 13:42 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Alonsovo video javljanje:


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Post 27.02.2015., 14:31 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Post 27.02.2015., 15:03 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Meni i dalje sve ovo izgleda kao da mu je vlastiti auto naudio. Zabrinjavajuće i smiješno. Previše elektronike i struje ne valja ni u jednom autu :gandalf:

Post 27.02.2015., 15:20 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Nisam neki expert, ali mene zanima zašto je Alonso u tom zavoju vozio 'samo' 135km/h, gdje se inače ide oko 230km/h?

I ova slika me zbunjuje!

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Gdje je Alonsova ruka na volanu? Ja je ne vidim...a vi?

Evo jedna usporedba:

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Post 27.02.2015., 15:34 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Vidi se lijeva ruka...rukavica je crna ...u ravnini s vizirom...
Zasto bi bilo jednostavno kad moze biti komplicirano??

Post 27.02.2015., 15:41 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Pa šta je ono crno ispred kacige na gornjoj slici, možda isto pregoreni dio bolida? :prcnjau:

Post 27.02.2015., 15:52 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Zeus wrote:Pa šta je ono crno ispred kacige na gornjoj slici, možda isto pregoreni dio bolida? :prcnjau:
Pa slušaj..... to isto pitanje je postavio i jedan lik na F1technical forumu. Ne može se sa sigurnošću reć ni da je ruka, niti da je čisti volan....
I btw... nije mi bila namjera provocirat, pa tako da nema potrebe za provokacijama Zeus....

A ono šta je također donekle čudno, i nakon šta je izletio na desnu stranu, volan je ostao i dalje okrenut na desno. Obično vozači refleksno okreću volan na suprotnu stranu od strane gdje izljeću.....

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Post 27.02.2015., 16:00 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Slažem se sa Lady (uh morat ću se naviknut na taj nik.. uporno mozak i ruka odlazi na Šesticu :mrgreen: ), nekako mi ono na prvoj slici nema nepravilni obris kao što je to u slučaju kad su prsti i šaka na volan, više blaga linija anatomskog volana, a o ova konstatacija je također čudna... Nije za badave sve to obavijeno velom tajne... i različitih teorija. Okolnosti su nadasve čudne za toliko ostajanje u bolnici, i možebitnog odustajanja od prve utrke.

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Transkrip Ronovog intervjua vezanog za stanje Alonsa:

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Dennis: 'Alonso is devoid of all injuries'

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Post 27.02.2015., 16:21 Re: Fernando Alonso

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Ono gore na bolidu je sigurno zagoreni dio, jer se u photoshopu ne može maknut. Da je sjena, moglo bi se nekako.
Što se tiče ruke na volanu, to je teško reći. Savijeni prsti daju prilično ravan izgled, pa je teško reći da li je ruka još uvijek na volanu ili nije.

Vrlo vjerojatno se na kraju neće ništa otkriti, ali ono najvažnije je da je Alonso u redu :)
U razumnu srcu mudrost počiva, a što je u bezumnom, to se i pokaže.

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